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Old 08-28-2007, 08:44 PM
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I am not sure what the UN has to do with this, since I don't believe even the most 'statist'-minded christians believe romans 13 teaches submission to foreign governments.
It's a little more complicated than that. The U.S. hypothetically abdicates to the UN.

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No christian would deny that there is a time to obey God rather than man and defy authority. But I think many a times the definition of when defiance is both needed and allowed is cast too wide.
That is why I ask hard ethical questions.

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Incompetence or excess of control is not, as far as I can see, a legitimate reason to defy authority. A child may chafe at his or her parents' setting of an arbitrary age before which he or she can drive, but that is no reason for rebellion. No one, myself included like to be controlled, but it does seem that the only time for rebellion against authority is in matters of clear sin.
I don't know what that has to do with my post.

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As far as homeschooling goes, I know this is a sensitive topic in reformed circles, but I am not convinced that it is a matter that requires, or allows rebelling against the government. Nor do I think it is consistent for churches to say it is, unless they already discipline each and every parent that does not homeschool.
Your last line is a red-herring fallacy.
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