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Originally Posted by toddpedlar  I think Gill's quite a bit off there - superiority with regard to position does not require, assume, or imply superiority with regard to ability. Certainly I can point to many women who have better reasoning and exegetical skills compared to many men, and who are spiritually more mature. However, God's authority structure doesn't depend on any of those things.
The Son of God is inferior in authority to the Father - the Son submits, the Father decrees and rules. No orthodox theologian would argue that the Son is somehow less in ability or power. Similarly, in the marriage relationship, the man's position of authority derives from God's decree - not from the man's abilities, which may or may not be superior to those of his wife.
The woman's teaching in the church is not a matter of ability or non-ability - but a matter of the order which God approves and teaches us in His word. | The Son does not submit to the Father. There is no subordination in the Godhead. As Mediator the Son submits to the Father but not as the Son.
God's order is not arbitrary because if it was then it would not be order but confusion. God's order is that the weak submit to the strong and that the strong govern the weak. To say mankind's rule over womankind has no basis in nature means that the pattern belongs exclusively to the Church, yet it has been nearly the universal paradigm in the history of our race. I don't think its a coincidence.
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*Peter Gray* Elkins Park RPCNA
"Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief. " Mk 9:24
"The greatest thing we can desire, next to the glory of God, is our own salvation; and the sweetest thing we can desire is the assurance of our salvation. In this life we cannot get higher than to be assured of that which in the next life is to be enjoyed. All saints shall enjoy a heaven when they leave this earth; some saints enjoy a heaven while they are here on earth." Joseph Caryl
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