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Originally Posted by BaptistInCrisis Rich - keep in mind that there are two types of Baptists that we are going to encounter on the PB. The first are Baptists who are Calvinists but still mired in the dispensational system. They usually attend free-willy churches and feel like a fish out of water because of their stance on Calvinism. The second group would be Reformed (Particular) Baptists. Usually they are confessional (LBC) and have a more thorough grasp on the doctrines of sovereign grace and covenantalism. |
No, I understand that Bill. Part of that dynamic makes discussion pretty interesting at times.
They'll come in and post in a thread like:
"Well, if you were consistent with the 5 points you would see this...."
or they'll have no idea about the Regulative Principle of Worship or something else....
I try to be patient but Admin and Mod work isn't always fun (the fun part is messing with other's tag lines and avatars). To have to regularly explain the same thing over and over to people gets wearying. It's the nature of being patient and being a teacher to others so I'm not excusing it.
Nevertheless, it's part of the reason we don't allow full blown Arminians on the board because think of all the work we'd be doing every time a new person came on board and how we'd spend all of our time trying to explain over and over and over again the same things and defeating the same tired canards. I honestly don't know where James White finds the patience to deal with it.
This board is interesting to say the least. It's not just a matter of being Confessional at times - it's having good arguments and being informed. If you've dealt with the reasons why the Confessional writers wrote a certain thing then it's doubtful the person has a head full of vinegar to label something abruptly.
I've said this before and I still believe it - I'm not convinced that the Founder's Movement would gain what it thinks it would gain in the final analysis unless it sought to improve a general respect for a Confession itself. Much of what plagues SBC Churches in bad theology is the independent spirit itself. If you just give the independent spirit the five points and say "Do with them whatever you wish as you read the Scriptures and come to your own conclusions..." then it isn't a recipe for unity. If anything it will create the same divisions where people form their convictions in all their unique and diverse ways that they think is the "...consistent expression of Calvinism."