I don't think your tone is good or called for either, Max. You are putting forth one position and others are responding that they don't hold the same position. They have used Scripture, catechisms, logic, reason, and exposition of all of those things to put forth their positions. And you, quite frankly, are being very dismissive of everyone's opinion but your own. Someone calmly puts forth that they don't agree with you and you say "Fine, be that way. Be in a casino when the Savior comes."

I don't think that's necessary.

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My name is Davis. I am the Lord's.

I gather with saints at Bethel Presbyterian Church here in Lake Charles, LA, where I live.

[b][SIZE="3"]"[/SIZE][/b][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]I dwell in the high and holy place, also with him that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones[/COLOR].[b][SIZE="3"]"[/SIZE][/b] -Our Father, the Lord God (Isaiah 57:15)