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Old 06-11-2007, 12:40 PM
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Hello Richard,

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So does that lead to the view that "truth can only be found in Scripture"?
Gordon Clark would say that the only knowledge we can say we have is that derived from Scripture. This ultimately fails, though. There are some truths necessary for knowledge that are independent of Scripture. The laws of logic are an example of this. If I do not presuppose the law of non-contradiction, then I cannot know what Scripture teaches in the first place. In this sense, whatever knowledge is derived from Scripture is dependent upon the laws of logic. These laws of logic, which are independent of Scripture, must be real knowledge or what is derived from Scripture is not real knowledge. So, if Scripture can give real knowledge, then not all real knowledge is found in Scripture.

The point of presuppositionalism is that the machinery in fallen man by which we obtain knowledge is broken, and therefore will lead us to wrong conclusions. Think of the passage in Matthew 6 that says if the light that is in you is darkness, then how great is that darkness. The "light" that is in an unbeliever is darkness, and as such, on the basis of th unbeliever's commitments, he will not come to proper conclusions. As new creatures we are to take our thoughts captive to the obedience of Christ. We are to renew our minds. We are to allow the Holy Spirit and Scripture to inform our presuppositions.

Now, is there knowledge apart from the Bible? Yes. We hold many truths that are independent of Scripture. The laws of logic are an example of this. Moral obligations are another example of this. I do not need the Scripture to know that I ought not to murder, etc...In fact, some presuppositionalsts believe that man being made in God's image is the basis for this type of knowledge. It is a knowledge that is not mediated; rather, it is immediate.

Sincerely,

Brian
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