I actually had to wikipedia these Frisians you speak of, congrats on knowing where you are from... I am more of a mutt than anything else.

I think I understand what you mean about the last question, that is why I phrased my question in that way. I was not sure that the text necessitated that one group must fall for the other to be brought in. Of course, I am sure that depending on different eschatological views there are many differing explanations of these verses.

I am really not sure what camp I would fall under at this point eschatologically, but I know I am not premillenial, pretrib, dispensationalist... which is the only interpretation I ever hear.

Not trying to disregard the warning against conjecture from John, I am however still a bit fuzzy on the fulness of the gentiles... what do you all see Paul as saying? Can this be answered in a way that does not put things into the text? What is the most basic, and scripturally sound, meaning of this portion of text?

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1st Kings 18:21 - "And Elijah came near to all the people and said, 'How long will you go limping between two different opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.' And the people did not answer him a word." (ESV)

Joshua H.
Layman - Sound Guy
Fayetteville First Baptist
Fayetteville, Ohio