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Old 05-05-2007, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by bwsmith View Post
The church has done great things --she seems weak now (in the USA) -- we have abortions, for example often as frequently as non-Christians -- therefore a goad to get busy is welcomed.

Are you saying Rick Warren do es not put his money where his mouth is?
That wasn't my intent - at least not totally. I understand that Rick Warren gives a phenomenal amount of his income to charity - particularly AIDS research and treatment. I respect that.

But I also get the impression that the whole "purpose driven" mantra is a business. He can teach the same thing from Scripture instead of encouraging churches to buy his book, attend his seminar, join his groups. I read all the time about "purpose driven" churches - excuse me aren't we Christ driven churches? I've read some things about Saddleback that i find truly depressing - at times there's no way to distinguish them from a "secular" social event.

And again - I think, for the most part, churches in general and Christians specifically have already done many of these things. Christians have been the social conscience of the world for centuries. Again, Christians built the churches, the hospitals, the charities, the schools. They are the ones who go out into the world and find ways to help those in need. What Warren is suggesting (not having seen him on Fox news) doesn't appear to be anything new.
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