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Old 03-17-2007, 07:54 PM
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Biblical circumcision? It was for the physical seed, males only, and is associated with Abraham's faith as stated in Romans 4:11. In Gen. 15:6 we see that faith came first then Abraham was circumcised.


Circumcision was not a sign of Abraham's faith. It was a sign of the righteousness which he had by faith. There's a huge difference. One is subjective, the other objective. The righteousness which Abraham had, Christ's righteousness, exists independently of anyone's obtaining it by faith.

If circumcision was a sign of righteousness and baptism is also such a sign, then Abraham's physical descendants should not have been permitted to receive the sign as children (according to your premises). You are right in saying that faith came first for Abraham, but it was not so for Isaac and Ishmael (and all the other male members of Abraham's household).
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