[b:6ba7e6d586]Adam wrote:[/b:6ba7e6d586]
I have a love for Israel because it has been taught to me.
If as you study the scriptures your beliefs about dispensationalism change, I hope this doesn't change.
[b:6ba7e6d586]Adam wrote:[/b:6ba7e6d586]
1) I never, ever was taught that Christ came to set up an earthly Kingdom and the Jews blew it when they had Him crucified. Why do I keep reading this is a "common" belief amongst dispensationalists? None I know believe that.
Just as you are new to this "common" belief, I'm new to the kind of dispensational teachings that you've been taught. I've always been taught I guess what's referred to as classic dispensationalism. I'm interested in learning what you've been taught. I'm particularly interested in what you've been taught about the kingdom. Please bear with me since I don't have much of an idea what's being taught now in churches that don't follow classic dispensationalism.
I would imagine that our two systems would agree that there is a distinction made between the kingdom blessings spoken of in the old testament and the church. The church is not seen in the old testament, so given the literal hermeneutic, the kingdom blessings spoken of in the OT must be fulfilled in the future in a literal kingdom.
When John and Jesus started their ministries, they both said:
Mat 3:1,2 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea, And saying, Repent ye: for [b:6ba7e6d586]the kingdom of heaven is at hand.[/b:6ba7e6d586]
Mat 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for [b:6ba7e6d586]the kingdom of heaven is at hand. [/b:6ba7e6d586]
From what you've been taught, which kingdom are they talking about here? Is it the literal kingdom spoken of in the old testament, which will be fulfilled during his 1000 year reign? Or was it the spiritual kingdom that believers are translated into after they've repented and put their faith in Jesus? Which kingdom was at hand?
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
[b:6ba7e6d586]Adam wrote:[/b:6ba7e6d586]
Keep all of this in mind as I ask questions NOT to debate but to try and learn.
Bob
[Edited on 6-20-2004 by blhowes]