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Originally Posted by armourbearer  A further weakening of the AV's strong predestinarian language may be seen in the uniform change which modern versions have made to Acts 13:48. AV, "and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." NKJV, NASB, NIV, ESV, "all change "ordained" to "appointed." The word "ordain" means "to order by virtue of superior authority; decree," and correctly represents the original. The meaning of "appoint" is "to create and charge with a task or function."
I hope to provide some more examples later, DV. |
Brother, since you are not really going to the center of the issue but rather attacking the "english" words used by the translators, I wanted to pick this and really tell you what infact the NASB used that is the same as the AV in this word "appoint" or "ordain.
The greek word used there is Tasso, which means:
1) to put in order, to station
a) to place in a certain order, to arrange, to assign a place, to appoint
1) to assign (appoint) a thing to one
b) to appoint, ordain, order
There are other passages in scripture that use the same greek word, which are: (Please note, the look at the words with the number 5021, and also notice this is the KJV. )
Mat 28:16 Then 1161 the eleven 1733 disciples 3101 went away 4198 into 1519 Galilee 1056, into 1519 a mountain 3735 where 3757 Jesus 2424 had appointed 5021 them 846.
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Luk 7:8 For 1063 I 1473 also 2532 am 1510 a man 444 set 5021 under 5259 authority 1849, having 2192 under 5259 me 1683 soldiers 4757, and 2532 I say 3004 unto one 5129, Go 4198 , and 2532 he goeth 4198 ; and 2532 to another 243, Come 2064 , and 2532 he cometh 2064 ; and 2532 to my 3450 servant 1401, Do 4160 this 5124, and 2532 he doeth 4160 [it].
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Act 13:48 And 1161 when the Gentiles 1484 heard this 191 , they were glad 5463 , and 2532 glorified 1392 the word 3056 of the Lord 2962: and 2532 as many as 3745 were 2258 ordained 5021 to 1519 eternal 166 life 2222 believed 4100 .
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Act 15:2 When therefore 3767 Paul 3972 and 2532 Barnabas 921 had 1096 no 3756 small 3641 dissension 4714 and 2532 disputation 4803 with 4314 them 846, they determined 5021 that Paul 3972 and 2532 Barnabas 921, and 2532 certain 5100 other 243 of 1537 them 846, should go up 305 to 1519 Jerusalem 2419 unto 4314 the apostles 652 and 2532 elders 4245 about 4012 this 5127 question 2213.
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Act 22:10 And 1161 I said 2036 , What 5101 shall I do 4160 , Lord 2962? And 1161 the Lord 2962 said 2036 unto 4314 me 3165, Arise 450 , and go 4198 into 1519 Damascus 1154; and there 2546 it shall be told 2980 thee 4671 of 4012 all things 3956 which 3739 are appointed 5021 for thee 4671 to do 4160 .
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Act 28:23 And 1161 when they had appointed 5021 him 846 a day 2250, there came 2240 many 4119 to 4314 him 846 into 1519 [his] lodging 3578; to whom 3739 he expounded 1620 and testified 1263 the kingdom 932 of God 2316, 5037 persuading 3982 them 846 concerning 4012 Jesus 2424, both 5037 out of 575 the law 3551 of Moses 3475, and 2532 [out of] the prophets 4396, from 575 morning 4404 till 2193 evening 2073.
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Rom 13:1 Let every 3956 soul 5590 be subject 5293 unto the higher 5242 powers 1849. For 1063 there is 2076 no 3756 power 1849 but 1508 of 575 God 2316: 1161 the powers 1849 that be 5607 are 1526 ordained 5021 of 5259 God 2316.
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1Cr 16:15 1161 I beseech 3870 you 5209, brethren 80, (ye know 1492 the house 3614 of Stephanas 4734, that 3754 it is 2076 the firstfruits 536 of Achaia 882, and 2532 [that] they have addicted 5021 themselves 1438 to 1519 the ministry 1248 of the saints 40,)
The point that I'm trying to get across is that it's really not much of the greek word, since the greek word used is the same in both the word "appoint" and "ordain". Your accusation is based more on the english translation. And when it comes down to that, it's really preference rather then heresy. This is why we should know the greek texts, like I've stressed in the other threads.
In Christ,
A.P.C