By saying that faith is irrational, he means, in the context of our conversation, that one cannot by rational ascent become a christian. The Holy spirit must regenerate the individual and then they receive the gift of faith logically, but there is no logical ascent to the faith (being as it is a gift and not earned). Regeneration requires the work of the Holy spirit and so one cannot reason in a regenerated state.

Tumeric I think you are correct in your apprisal that this is the same kind of situation as described in 1 Corinthians 1:20-25, but he us the greek seeking wisdom. Now Sroul and Gerstner argue that the proper aologetic is the classical approch using reason as opposed to presuppositionalism. He finds that inconsistant since reason and evidence do nought without revelation

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Robert K. "Kelly" Brumbelow
Soon to be at Christ Covenant - Mansfield
University of Texas at Arlington - Pre-Professional Philosophy
Arlington, Texas

Dear Lord and Father of mankind, Forgive our foolish ways;
Reclothe us in our rightful mind, In purer lives Thy service find,
In deeper reverence, praise.