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Old 04-05-2004, 09:53 PM
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Free will is a matter of perspective. Have you read Augustine ? ?

We have freedom, but what do we mean by freedom ? ? If we mean total autonomy, then we are teaching a doctrine that the scriptures deny. If we say we have freedom in a libertarian sense, then we affirm what the scriptures say. We are free but our will is tethered to our nature and God's providence. We have only so much freedom in the physical world, like gravity, and eating, and sleep, yet we never argue, "I am not truly free because I have to sleep to regain strength." Nor do we argue, "I am totally and completely free. The laws of gravity do not apply to me."

Yet those are the type of arguments people use by analogy when it comes to the will. How absurd !!!

Those two arguments reflect the extremes of Arminianism and hyper Calvinism. God does not move our minds to sin. Nor are we able to make any choice without His providential care over our lives. It is a paradox, but so is the incarnation.

Our will is under "bondage". We are born sinful. We choose exactly what we want. And what we want is to hate God and disobey Him. Until He changes our heart, so we can desire to love Him, and obey him, we are enslaved to that master. Until He gives us wings, we are held to the ground by gravity.

In more philosophical terms we could say that when I consider my actions as constituents of the phenomenal world, I am obliged to regard them as produced by rigid deterministic laws, but when I consider those same actions as they are in the noumenal world I am not so obliged. I can have practical knowledge of that freedom, which I am required to postulate in order to account for my inescapable sense of myself as a responsible moral agent.
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